How does this sit with yall

I’m on a Francis Parker Yockey vibe

America, being the western frontier, holding the potential to be the pinnacle of European Civilization, must take the mantel of Nationalism. It must be the bedrock that the confederation of Nationalist Europe is built

Nationalism means putting the nation first, thereby rendering it heretical and antithetical to God’s Commandments.
As for America being the pinnacle of European Civilisation, I think there are a lot of Europeans who would disagree with you. America can stay as the pinnacle of American settlement, but it was settled by Protestants, so I would not even consider basing a civilisation off it.

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The idea that nationalism does put God second is something I lose focus on.
I don’t think it is the pinnacle but with the right love and affection it definitely could be but yes I also need the reminder that Americaism as we know it is Protestant

America cannot be the pinnacle of European Civilisation, it is its own civilisation. If you have ever listened to John Lennon’s “Imagine”, I would draw your attention to the lines “Imagine there’s no countries \ It isn’t hard to do \ Nothing to kill or die for \ And no religion too”. Setting aside personal bias and the grammatical issues, and ignoring the jab at religion, let us consider what does and does not go into making a country:

  1. A country is not an arbitrary line placed somewhere on a map for shits and giggles, it is a geographical and historical entity with its own language, lore, and mythology, all of which define its people.
  2. A country, being a separate entity from any other country, has its own civilisation and ideals and neither can nor ought to try becoming the pinnacle of another civilisation, nor should it seek to make itself into the be all and end all of civilisation.

What America seems to forget, with its blind, nationalistic patriotism (and obnoxious patronising which just comes across as arrogant(!)), is that Europe has, for the most part, stood since long before America reared its head on the world stage. Europe may be in decline, but America should not think itself Europe’s replacement since such an attitude sells both short and buries America’s unique identity under a jigsaw of random “good qualities” from other civilisations tacked on to the face of America.

TL;DR, America is not Europe and should not try to be.

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I see what you mean with “America is not Europe” but from a racial perspective White Americans are at least European. That being said that does not mean we cannot become, I want to stress the become, the pinnacle of Western civilization because we are a combination of all of Western Civilization. Sure the foundation was off but that does not mean the Culture War can ever be won.
Each nation of itself can only be the best version of itself but cannot encompass the rest of Western civilization and I understanding why feeding the patriotism of Americans is bad but is there a country that is a blend of more western countries?
We are just speaking of potentials

Why should America seek to become the pinnacle of civilisation? What is achieved by this? A very American trait is the creation of and immediate lust for random accolades, titles, and embellishments for the sole purpose of ego-stroking. Participation awards, if you will. Western Civilisation is nothing, you would be better served reclaiming your country for Christendom.

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Is Western civilization not held entirely up by Christ? The fulfillment of Western civilization would be a completely union with Christ and His Church.
What you describe as America is the current Judified America.

Whether the West is held up by Christ or not is neither here nor there and America is as it has always been, there was never a time when America was not Protestant. Protestantism is one of Satan’s attempts to destroy the Church, there is nothing truly good about it, and America is one of its fruits.

Whilst the unity of the world under Christ is the ideal, America seems to believe “unity” to mean “sameness” instead of “togetherness”. Interestingly, the world is almost expected to ditch its uniqueness and become American to achieve this idea of unity. The argument could almost be boiled down to “If you unify, you will not cease to be, instead, you will become as America, knowing God”, which sounds worryingly like something a certain Serpent said to the First Man’s wife.


So like Mosleys “europe, a nation” but with America spearheading it?

A bit late to the party, but I think it is more correct to say that nationalism puts the nation first: first in comparison to the other nations.

The rest of the points are too big brained for me right now!